Tim Gunn is setting the report straight on whether or not or not he’ll be showing on the upcoming season of Venture Runway.

In an unique interview with PEOPLE, Gunn revealed that a number of months in the past, his longtime co-host, Heidi Klum, texted him about the opportunity of returning for the fact TV present, which he hosted for 16 seasons earlier than leaving in 2018 to create a brand new trend competitors present on Amazon Video referred to as Making the Lower.

“Heidi despatched me a textual content saying, ‘There’s discuss bringing Venture Runway again with us, with you and me, and would you do it?’ And I mentioned, ‘Would I do it? After all, there’s not a second of hesitation in me,'” Gunn, 71, tells PEOPLE solely.

“So Heidi and I had been texting and texting, and several other months later, she despatched me a textual content asking, ‘Are you cheerful together with your contract?’ I am a truth-teller. I do not even mince phrases. I mentioned, ‘Effectively, I have not seen a contract,'” he provides. “And she or he mentioned, ‘You have not?’ No. So I referred to as my agent and he knew issues had been happening, however he contacted the chief producers of this new present, they usually mentioned, ‘We do not need him.’ And [my agent] mentioned, ‘Effectively, he is finished 19 seasons of Runway, 16 with Heidi. The 2 of them gained an Emmy collectively as hosts, and now you are going to separate them?’ And so they mentioned sure.”

Gunn continues, “So I wasn’t requested again. Nevertheless, a number of weeks after that dialog, they went again to [my agent] and mentioned, ‘Effectively, we have considered it and we would be prepared to supply Tim a small cameo in a single episode.’ What do I do? Wave from a bus? Because the designers are going into Temper [Fabrics]? Heidi involves see me on the retirement dwelling and we play croquet? So no thanks. And as Heidi would say, you are both in otherwise you’re out. And I am out. So I wasn’t requested to affix.”

Upon listening to the information, Gunn says that he was “initially devastated, then sort of humiliated.” However shortly, he modified his perspective on the scenario.

“I assumed, how fortunate am I to have had the experiences that I’ve had during the last 20 years?” he says. “That is phenomenal. I finished the boo-hooing. I assumed, it is actually throwing hubris within the face of an indignant God to mourn not being on this new present. So I’ve come to phrases with it. Am I upset? Positive. And most of all, it is about not working with Heidi, however we transfer on and issues occur for a purpose. I do not know what the reason being but, however it will likely be revealed.”

As for Klum, when Gunn shared the information together with her he says she was additionally devastated. “She was actually upset and he or she saved saying, ‘I am preventing for you, I am preventing for you,'” he provides. “Which is gorgeous of her and nothing that I ought to count on. And I mentioned, ‘Heidi, simply take excellent care of your self. Don’t be concerned about me. I will be advantageous.'”

He provides that he plans to observe the present to cheer on his former cohost. “I’ve her again and I am together with her in spirit at all times,” he says.

Disney had no remark.

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Again in January, PEOPLE confirmed that Klum can be returning to Venture Runway after additionally stepping away from the hit franchise in 2018.

Klum, 51, initially hosted the present from 2004 to 2017 (the season 16 finale airing November 2017 was her final) and gained the 2013 Emmy Award for her position, which she shared with Gunn. She was nominated 9 instances throughout her tenure with Venture Runway, with the fact competitors program incomes dozens of nominations general.

Season 21 of Venture Runway will characteristic 10 episodes aired weekly, however the judges and premiere date haven’t but been introduced.

When Klum and Gunn left Venture Runway to steer Making the Lower on Amazon Prime Video, Karlie Kloss took over internet hosting duties for the subsequent two seasons, with Christian Siriano serving as mentor. For Seasons 19 and 20, Siriano took over for Kloss, pulling double responsibility as host and mentor.

Venture Runway, which initially launched on Bravo, earlier than shifting to Lifetime after which again to Bravo, will now see its dwelling on Freeform, Disney+ and Hulu.