[Editor’s Note: The following contains spoilers for Dune: Prophecy Season 1, Episode 4]

The plot is ever-twisting and delivering Max’s prequel sequence Dune: Prophecy, as Homes and the Sisterhood proceed vying for energy. Because the arrival of the mysterious and gifted stranger, Desmond Hart (Travis Fimmel), Mom Superior Valya Harkonnen, performed by Emily Watson, and her sister Tula, performed by Olivia Williams, discover their grasp on the universe’s politics slipping via their fingers like spice.

Even lengthy earlier than Mom Superior Raquella Berto-Anirul (Cathy Tyson) appointed Valya her successor, the Harkonnen sisters have been pulling the strings on the Sisterhood and making lethal strikes. After Episode 4, it is revealed that Valya really will cease at nothing and that no sacrifice is simply too nice for the trigger — Sisterhood above all, in spite of everything. And although her sister’s crafty is worn extra freely on her sleeve, Tula is hardly innocent.

On this interview with Collider’s Perri Nemiroff, Watson and Williams focus on how Jessica Barden (Younger Valya) and Emma Canning (Younger Tula) had been essential to discovering their characters and the way sharing scenes with Jade Anouka (Sister Theodosia) and Chloe Lea (Sister Lila) helped push their very own performances. They dig into the psyches of their characters publish that Episode 4 reveal with Sister Theo and their most up-to-date kills, and query whether or not their characters are affected by these murders going ahead. You’ll be able to take a look at the complete dialog within the participant above, or you’ll be able to learn the transcript beneath.

Jessica Barden and Emma Canning Have been Essential to Growing Valya and Tula

Watson and Williams additionally spotlight how Chloe Lea and Jade Anouka impacted their performances.

PERRI NEMIROFF: I wished to begin with a giant, broad query about discovering your characters. One other actor defined this to me lately and I’ve gotten a bit of obsessive about the concept; once you begin a brand new present it may be scary since you’re on unstable floor, however then you’ve gotten that second the place you do one thing, and you’ve gotten simply discovered who they’re. Did you’ve gotten that with these characters, and if that’s the case, when?

EMILY WATSON: That is a superb query.

OLIVIA WILLIAMS: For me, it was bizarre to seek out as a result of, truly, the factor the place you discover out who Tula is is performed by one other actress.

She’s so good!

WILLIAMS: I do know, it’s annoying, is not it? Rattling her! [Laughs] No, Emma [Canning], thanks for giving me the scenes I wanted to construct to that.

WATSON: Sure, I’ve to say, I really feel equally. Jessica [Barden], what she embodied was the fad, absolutely the rage that would burn down the partitions. As an older girl, Valya has realized to regulate that and channel it and use it. Nevertheless it’s there. It is firing all the pieces.

The opposite factor I actually wished to ask you each about was the worth of a superb scene associate, and the 2 that I wished to deal with had been Jade [Anouka] and Chloe [Lea]. Within the present, their characters are your characters’ favorites, and when you’ve gotten a favourite, I think about that helps you discover one thing in your individual character through that relationship. What’s one thing concerning the two of them as scene companions that helped you attain one thing new in Valya and Tula?

WATSON: In Theodosia, Jade’s character, Valya sees anyone who is completely dedicated to the trigger, who will sacrifice all the pieces for the Sisterhood — “Sisterhood above all.” She is the one who can actually ship that. And she or he does to her what was carried out to Valya by Mom Raquella, which is, “I see you. You’re particular. Include me. Put your self to using the mission.” It is a very harmful factor to do, to inform anyone that they are unimaginable and highly effective and necessary, and a part of the future of mankind. It is a recruiting device, and it is very highly effective. And Theodosia not solely repays it with an amazing sacrifice but additionally an act of affection, which is to look to her as her brother, who’s the good loss and love of her life, who all the fad, all of the fury, all of the frozen coronary heart that she has, it is all about that.

It is one heck of a reveal on the finish of Episode 4.

WILLIAMS: One of many major issues that I skilled as an actor working with Chloe Lea was, “I higher step up my sport.” She is such an unimaginable actress and youth, and he or she appears a lot youthful, bodily, than she truly is, however the knowledge of her efficiency. So, yeah, she raised the bar. After we had a scene collectively, I needed to play each complexity. I had a drama instructor who was sufficiently old to be Prussian — so, look it up — and he had this glorious phrase. He stated to me, “Ducky, your subtext is exhibiting.” I couldn’t present my subtext with Chloe as a result of she was so intelligent she would learn it like that. And so to play the large scene I had together with her, which is, “Come and go to your mother, it may be nice,” I needed to play the sincerity as a result of any chink within the armor, she’d have been on it.

“Sisterhood Above All”

Watson discusses Valya’s relationship with Theodosia and utilizing prophecy as a device.

I’ve so many issues to observe up on. The very first thing that crossed my thoughts, Emily, since you introduced up Mom Raquella, this is a bit more of a principle query, nevertheless it’s one thing that I maintain eager about. If Mom Raquella did not name Valya to her deathbed and say that she wished her to guide, do you assume she would have adopted the very same path?

WATSON: That is an excellent query. Initially, we had Cathy Tyson in that function, and to us, she’s an icon. She’s an absolute legend. So, that was a really highly effective factor. Anyway, I do not know. Earlier within the story, once you see within the flashback in Episode 3, there is a second that I discovered terribly highly effective and disturbing when all of the sisters have been instructed they’re solely allowed to return inside to take their place within the Sisterhood in the event that they swear allegiance and say, “Sisterhood above all,” and she will’t do it. That is the second, when she’s received all this explosion of worry and doubt, and that is the second when Raquella actually sees her and goes, “You are particular.” So, the deathbed scene is a affirmation of that, however I believe it is already been planted.

I did need to observe up on Theo’s energy a bit of bit as properly. So far as I do know, once you signal on for a present like this, you typically solely get a few scripts, and you then be taught extra about your character alongside the best way as you make it. What was your very first response to discovering out what Theo does for her, and the way did that change the character for you?

WATSON: I’d sat down with Alison [Schapker], the showrunner, and been given a little bit of a heads-up on what the relationships had been, so I knew that that was coming down the pike, regardless that I hadn’t seen the script but, that she was uniquely helpful. Theodosia is clearly an excellent embodiment of all these sorts of powers that we had, and that she will do shapeshifting, which is a unprecedented ability, however that additionally her background — mainly, within the Dune universe, these individuals are the product of a sort of Mengele-type scientific experiment, and so her background is abusive. Additionally, she’s a wished individual within the Imperium. She’s in nice hazard, so she finds refuge within the Sisterhood. All of these issues make her an ideal sufferer, actually, of my ambition and recruitment. It is a fairly highly effective device.

This is one other factor that that reveal was making me take into consideration; when the present opens, there is a voiceover from you, and also you say one thing to the impact of, “Is there extra reality in historical past or prophecy?” Initially, I’d have assumed prophecy, no-brainer, however given how tethered she is to her personal historical past, do you assume it is that black and white for her?

WATSON: I believe there is a sense that prophecy casts itself as one thing that is sort of god-given; it is a imaginative and prescient of the long run that’s impressed by some divine energy. However truly, what prophecy is of their universe is manipulation. It is us. We will sow seeds that then seem like they’re nice, inspiring occasions.

WILLIAMS: Don’t inform them it isn’t actual! [Laughs]

WATSON: It is controlling the narrative. That is what prophecy is.

Olivia Williams Shares a Phrase of Warning About Tula Harkonnen

“Look out for the quiet ones.”

Olivia, I’ll ask you a considerably comparable query about studying what occurs to your character in Episode 3. Is that one thing you had been instructed about upfront, and if not, once you discovered what Tula did in her youth, how did that change the character for you?

WILLIAMS: I am very unhealthy at studying scripts. I used to be in a film as soon as known as The Sixth Sense, and I keep in mind watching it like, “He’s lifeless?”

Are you critical? [Laugh]

WILLIAMS: [Laughs] I did know, nevertheless it was a bit like that, and so it took me a number of days. What occurs in Episode 6, I actually was going again via, going, “What? Cling on a goddamn minute!” I am very gullible, very straightforward to shock. All of it got here as a shock.

Simply because she cries quite a bit. You’ll be able to cry and kill somebody in the identical heartbeat. Look out for the quiet ones.

Given the truth that your characters each kill somebody in Episodes 3 and 4, I am curious to listen to how your solutions to this query would possibly differ. How do they carry these kills with them? Or is it a matter of, “I did what I did,” and simply transferring on?

WATSON: For Valya, sure. I believe it was needed. Anyone who threatens the mission must go. The truth that it is fueled by vengeance and household vendetta is irrelevant. However Valya is mostly a shock. She simply does what is critical, and some other issues are pfft.

WILLIAMS: With Tula, it is this query of if you happen to do one thing dreadful after which really feel unhealthy about it, does it make you a greater individual?

WATSON: Valya is extra trustworthy, I believe.

WILLIAMS: Each time I exploit a single-use plastic, I really feel actually unhealthy about it, however I nonetheless drink water. Are you aware what I imply?

That is a extra necessary factor. I used to be considering each time I exploit a restroom and do not change the roll of bathroom paper …

WILLIAMS: You do not try this?!

No, after all I do as a result of I’d carry that guilt with me endlessly!

WILLIAMS: [Laughs] However yeah, it is the hypocrisy of the bleeding coronary heart liberal, however I’ll keep it up. Sure. If you happen to do one thing unhealthy and you’re feeling unhealthy about it, you are a greater individual than somebody who does not. I simply canceled myself. Oh, god. [Laughs]

Emily Watson Reveals ‘Dune: Prophecy’s “Important Baddie”

Given how a lot has occurred via Episode 4, I am inquisitive about each of your solutions to this explicit query. On the very starting of the present, what do you assume your character feared essentially the most, and now, given what has occurred, is that worry the identical or one thing else?

WILLIAMS: Concern is a really, very loaded phrase on this present.

That it’s.

WILLIAMS: Properly, my character’s the nerd, and he or she says that worry, a bit like rabies, is one thing’s happening together with your biome. It is like they’re tracing intestine micro organism to despair. It is like this worry that runs via all of them is infectious.

WATSON: In a approach, if there is a major baddie, the principle protagonist on this present, it’s worry. And that is what we now have to get previous.

WILLIAMS: And it is so related right this moment as a result of we’re all being persuaded, this week notably, to be afraid and to behave out of worry.

All too true.

To finish on a optimistic notice, I’ve develop into a bit of obsessive about this concept as a result of I used to be simply speaking to a director who closely highlighted how thrilling it was for him to see his solid and crew take such delight of their work and have such pleasure on set. For every of you, are you able to recall the actual second of constructing Dune: Prophecy that introduced you essentially the most pleasure as an artist?

WATSON: I believe the very first few days we had with the all the ladies within the Sisterhood. There was a tent by the aspect of the set the place all of us gathered and it was so overwhelming. It was like having my youngsters’ associates over. Simply an awesome sense of pleasure and pleasure, and that has actually lasted. We have managed to make an organization of correct associates, and that is a very gratifying a part of our job is to guide that sense of, “We’re all right here for one another. We glance out for one another,” and it is a very nice factor to have the ability to do.

WILLIAMS: We had an amazing make-up bus on this. A girl known as Kate Benton ran hair and make-up, she designed the present, and truthfully, you’ll be able to inform how good the performing goes to be on a present by the environment within the make-up bus. It was an amazing playlist, phenomenal, inventive individuals, and I truthfully appeared ahead to going onto the bus and simply hanging with the individuals, whoever they’d be — there could be visitor actors coming over from London for time. I believe that is an excellent litmus take a look at for it may go.

So true. I’ll say big congratulations on Episodes 1 via 4. I am simply dying to see extra proper now. I do not belief anybody.

WILLIAMS: No, do not. Ever.

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